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News / Re: Brexshit - EU Shipments Temporarily Suspended
« on: February 02, 2021, 08:24:00 pm »
Neither. One of the core principles is the EU is the free movement of goods and workforce within the union. The free movement of workforce is one of the main reasons for the brits leaving.

Once out a new trade agreement needs to be made before goods can move freely, and those negotiations didn’t work out - but it would have been somewhat weird had the union just accepted an agreement that would allow free movement of goods from the UK without getting something significant in return.

Giles wrote “very warm” - how warm is that? At what temperatures do those of you who own it wear it?

I live in Copenhagen, and I’d be wearing it with a (thin) shirt and a t-shirt underneath. I know it is extremely subjective, but any feedback would be welcome.

There is one available at a store in town, but due to lockdown actually trying it on will involve buying it,
so I’d appreciate input.


I hope the picture works - it is a horrible picture (nice pavement though), but it shows the fascinating colour of these pants. The picture is taken in early morning light, and there is an almost purple hue to the denim.

Last night when I opened them inside the house they looked black or very dark navy.  And in the morning, when  I was still in the house they seemed dark blue.

I can now understand why I had a hard time getting the hang of the colour when watching them online.

(And no I generally don’t take pictures of my crotch and post them online, but this seemed like the right place to do it...)

Received the brown XL today and initial impression is very good. It dwarfs it predecessor - in the pictures it looks like a "normal" belt, but once you hold it you realise that every proportion is just big - it's heavy, wide and thick. And a very beautiful leather.

I need to shorten it, but at the moment I'm wearing it, just to get it broken in a little bit. Is quite soft out of the bag, though.

So I received them - apparently they were held up in Cologne for the weekend - and they are great.

The fit is a little tight around the thighs at the moment, but I think it'll loosen up. As stated above I do a lot of sitting on my butt these days, so I'll be working on it.

I love the colour. So dark that it is hard to see if they are black or a deep navy. My wife was quite intrigued. I'll see if I can get pictures in daylight one of these days.

The fabric is great too. People say that the regular 21 oz seems lighter - I'd say that feeling is even more pronounced with these, absolutely comfortable right out of the bag. They still seem solid, and are definitely heavy, but very soft as well.

I asked about breathability, and I can't really answer. My first impression is that they are a little bit tighter than the 21 oz, but I only have my own pair to compare with and they have both been worn and washed. I'll get back on it, if I can tell a difference once I get these broken in.

I’ll see what I can do. Working from home due to lockdown means more time in jeans, unfortunately it’s mainly spent sitting on my butt.

No worries  :)

I finally figured out that at lot of information about this denim was to be found in the fall 2020 area of the forum - that made the decision easy.

I didn’t find anything about breathability, but I’ll manage. I love the way it fades in the pictures, and look forward to to see how mine will do.

Well I decided to take the plunge. Now I just hope that the postal service is up to speed...

How do these compare to the 14 oz? I read somewhere that the 14 oz was somewhat thighter than the 21 oz and thus less breathable?

And I’m sorry if the information is available somewhere, I haven’t been able to find it.

Oops, sorry about that.

Hopefully this is better https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=104.msg656692#msg656692

Thanks for the other pictures as well.

I’m considering these, and I think the picture in this thread is great. However Filthy has posted pictures here https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=104.msg659776#msg659776 (page 186) of a pair of XHS ib, which seem to have faded differently. 

I think Giles’s look like the fabric has changed color, whereas Filthys look like there is a layer of dark color on top, which has been worn off in places.

Will these fade more like the 19 oz ones, or could it go either way?

Also how does the fabric compare to 21 oz indigo? I’ve tried a lighter pair than 21 oz, but they felt more stiff (I think it was 14 oz, but I cod be mistaken).

Cool, thanks.

Sorry, newbie question here:

Does the fact that the dark parts are indigo mean that they will eventually fade to (light) blue?

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