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Re: IHSH-180 - Ultra Heavy Flannel Classic Check Western Shirt
« Reply #120 on: September 26, 2017, 04:41:03 pm »
How are there so many mediums left!?

Guess what Giles & I are discussing currently...

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« Reply #121 on: September 26, 2017, 04:42:19 pm »
crazy world...
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Re: IHSH-180 - Ultra Heavy Flannel Classic Check Western Shirt
« Reply #122 on: September 26, 2017, 04:44:17 pm »
Guess what Giles & I are discussing currently...

Re: Running the 180 in brown and green...

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Re: IHSH-180 - Ultra Heavy Flannel Classic Check Western Shirt
« Reply #123 on: September 26, 2017, 04:45:00 pm »
with less mediums...

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« Reply #124 on: September 26, 2017, 04:46:56 pm »
do not even start to think in this direction, will never work...
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Re: IHSH-180 - Ultra Heavy Flannel Classic Check Western Shirt
« Reply #125 on: September 26, 2017, 04:51:19 pm »
Dang.  Went to buy and my size is already gone!
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Re: IHSH-180 - Ultra Heavy Flannel Classic Check Western Shirt
« Reply #126 on: September 26, 2017, 04:56:12 pm »
mediums dont get onto computers till later in the day, while apparently the smalls have nothing better to do! >:(

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@Niro  I would consider to get a Medium and hot wash it at 90C, there really is not much diff. in the meas.
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Re: IHSH-180 - Ultra Heavy Flannel Classic Check Western Shirt
« Reply #127 on: September 26, 2017, 04:59:19 pm »
Count me in for the green and/or brown, both look brilliant!
@Giles @Alex I know this has been raised multiple times over the years, but given the popularity and availability of this shirt, would you reconsider your position on deposit/pre-orders? I know I'd be happy to pay a significant deposit to secure something I wanted

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Re: IHSH-180 - Ultra Heavy Flannel Classic Check Western Shirt
« Reply #128 on: September 26, 2017, 05:00:51 pm »
I am just surprised that one large is hanging around.

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Re: IHSH-180 - Ultra Heavy Flannel Classic Check Western Shirt
« Reply #129 on: September 26, 2017, 05:01:46 pm »
Just curious if you guys routinely do analysis of quantities ordered/sold in the different sizes, and compare them to sizes that you discount to move?

I'm sure it is a bit of guesswork in ordering based upon the style, but it may help in nailing down quantities of the different sizes.

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Re: IHSH-180 - Ultra Heavy Flannel Classic Check Western Shirt
« Reply #130 on: September 26, 2017, 05:06:54 pm »
Just curious if you guys routinely do analysis of quantities ordered/sold in the different sizes, and compare them to sizes that you discount to move?

Pretty sure they do. As Giles said yesterday, in short, he never knows for sure what will sell. When ordering for an entire season the total number if shirts is massive, despite there being only 30-40 of each item. If you guess wrong you end up with dead weight on the shelves that has to be shifted via the outlet.
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Re: IHSH-180 - Ultra Heavy Flannel Classic Check Western Shirt
« Reply #131 on: September 26, 2017, 05:29:29 pm »
I know this has been raised multiple times over the years, but given the popularity and availability of this shirt, would you reconsider your position on deposit/pre-orders? I know I'd be happy to pay a significant deposit to secure something I wanted
No.

Here's why.

We ask for pre-orders, we get the following orders:

S - 3
M - 6
L - 8
XL - 8
XXL - 4

We make those numbers and the sizing is a size too small.

We can thus fulfil:

XS - 3
S - 6
M - 8
L - 8
XL - 4
XXL - 0

So to avoid pissing people off (and I can tell you now, you would be a lot more pissed off with us if you had pre-ordered and then we could not fulfil), we have to over order, to ensure we can fulfil if the sizing comes out too large or too small.

So we get left with stock that we do not want, which means our cost base goes up and puts pressure on our prices across the board.

Anyone who says they can do pre-orders with clothing and not either piss customers off or increase their stock levels is talking through their arse.
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Re: IHSH-180 - Ultra Heavy Flannel Classic Check Western Shirt
« Reply #132 on: September 26, 2017, 05:32:42 pm »
Just curious if you guys routinely do analysis of quantities ordered/sold in the different sizes, and compare them to sizes that you discount to move?

I'm sure it is a bit of guesswork in ordering based upon the style, but it may help in nailing down quantities of the different sizes.

Inventory management is always a pain in the ......
We analyse and refine all the time.  But because we do not actually know what we would have sold had we had infinite numbers of each size, then the data is incomplete
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Re: IHSH-180 - Ultra Heavy Flannel Classic Check Western Shirt
« Reply #133 on: September 26, 2017, 05:35:32 pm »
Don't despair guys. Iron Heart has some great retailers which can help you out too. Just saying.

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Re: IHSH-180 - Ultra Heavy Flannel Classic Check Western Shirt
« Reply #134 on: September 26, 2017, 05:37:08 pm »
Another thing. 

We asked for forms to be completed for the Kanreki shirt.  I know that filling a form is does not imply real demand like actually paying a deposit, but we had 130 unique customer completed forms. That gave us a pretty good view of what the bell curve for shirts looked like. And because I did not want to piss anyone off, we have 135.

But we only shifted 60 of them.  I know the sizing was an issue, so that takes us back to the problem that I tried to articulate in my response to @tmg .  Bottom line is I have 72 shirts on the shelf that I don't really want taking up space and using working capital....
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