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Re: Brexshit - EU Shipments Temporarily Suspended
« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2021, 04:20:53 pm »
Looks like I picked the wrong time to stop taking Valium----
I gave up smoking 3 weeks ago and me and Paula are having a dry Feb.  Now that's bad timing  :D :D

oh man I feel for you G---good luck kicking it:)

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Re: Brexshit - EU Shipments Temporarily Suspended
« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2021, 04:43:19 pm »
Terrible news. Crossing fingers for a good solution.
Though it doesn't surprise me, after reading the FT interview with Danny RnH
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Re: Brexshit - EU Shipments Temporarily Suspended
« Reply #17 on: February 02, 2021, 05:39:06 pm »
I know this is a serious topic and i hope it all smooths out fast Iron Heart crew.  That being said...

I'm am hereby coining the term "IHUK-xit" and will be collecting royalties here forth.   
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Re: Brexshit - EU Shipments Temporarily Suspended
« Reply #18 on: February 02, 2021, 06:23:52 pm »
I notice the UK government had described this kind of thing as «teething problems». What a slap in the face that is for all the small businesses at the heart of the British economy.
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Re: Brexshit - EU Shipments Temporarily Suspended
« Reply #19 on: February 02, 2021, 06:35:18 pm »
The U.K government
Lies... :-[ >:(


https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/brexit-news/europe-news/der-spiegel-on-brexit-6873020?fbclid=IwAR3C-iIb48RKydQEyL1qLbakURLC4OoAfyqkvwj-F4QR2Sc6xPe9m0ukJpE


I have ordered few stuff from Iron Heart Germany
Can’t now will be hit with custom tax..
Iron Heart Gosport has my backing, your here am here hell with the government

Need sorting both ways..
Not only for buying, but returning too..

Let the seller and buyer down..

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Re: Brexshit - EU Shipments Temporarily Suspended
« Reply #20 on: February 02, 2021, 07:46:07 pm »
...so the UK is doing this (additional costs for shipping/tax and confusion) or a retaliatory strike from the EU members?
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Re: Brexshit - EU Shipments Temporarily Suspended
« Reply #21 on: February 02, 2021, 08:24:00 pm »
Neither. One of the core principles is the EU is the free movement of goods and workforce within the union. The free movement of workforce is one of the main reasons for the brits leaving.

Once out a new trade agreement needs to be made before goods can move freely, and those negotiations didn’t work out - but it would have been somewhat weird had the union just accepted an agreement that would allow free movement of goods from the UK without getting something significant in return.

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Re: Brexshit - EU Shipments Temporarily Suspended
« Reply #22 on: February 02, 2021, 09:09:09 pm »
Realy bad news, not unexpected but realy bad.  :-[ I hope this will be solved fast.
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Re: Brexshit - EU Shipments Temporarily Suspended
« Reply #23 on: February 02, 2021, 09:12:27 pm »
I notice the UK government had described this kind of thing as «teething problems». What a slap in the face that is for all the small businesses at the heart of the British economy.

Especially knowing that the big players made the move into EU warehouses months ago, I spoke to a customs expert from a swiss logistics company sometime in late 2019, he was then already starting with transporting stuff to the EU and mapping out concepts to avoid the chaos that goes on now for his customers.

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Re: Brexshit - EU Shipments Temporarily Suspended
« Reply #24 on: February 03, 2021, 04:09:37 pm »
I believe that @Brock gave you the solution to this problem years ago in one of his posts.  You will just need someone to travel back and forth to EU countries once the lockdowns are lifted.

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In all seriousness, this situation sucks and I hope that you are able to find a solution that works out for everybody.

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Re: Brexshit - EU Shipments Temporarily Suspended
« Reply #25 on: February 03, 2021, 04:56:15 pm »
Hahahahahahahaha......

We made a lot of progress today thank you.

Ther are a number of parts to the problem

1) A trade deal is of no use if the customs people who process shipments in the individual countries have not been told the rules
2) Any of the customs officials who are pissed off with the UK for leaving the EU and therefore making their lives hell, are punishing UK shipments by slapping whatever charges they think they can get away with (and now the hell do I start a claim with the Bulgarian tax office, or indeed, and of the EU countries)
3) The EU and Japan have a free trade arrangement, the UK and Japan have the same free trade agreement, so all intelligent people would think that therefore shipping Japanese goods between the EU and the UK would not attract duty, and that is exactly what we were told before 21st Dec.  Actually, there is a not now a single person we can speak to who will give us a definitive answer, most of our shipments containing Japanese goods into the EU are attracting duty, but not all.
4) Even goods made in The UK (Simmons Bilt) are attracting duty (see point 2). 

Alex, Paula and I did a comprehensive audit of all shipments we have made into Europe since 1st Jan, now that we have sufficient data to do that task.  Our operating margins are running at about -6% to +8% (yes, that is minus 6 percent).

That is why we have had to do what we have done.
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Re: Brexshit - EU Shipments Temporarily Suspended
« Reply #26 on: February 03, 2021, 05:04:54 pm »
Weird - I haven't heard of Gove being strangled by a bunch of Gosport's finest!..

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Re: Brexshit - EU Shipments Temporarily Suspended
« Reply #27 on: February 03, 2021, 05:10:07 pm »
 :) :)
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Re: Brexshit - EU Shipments Temporarily Suspended
« Reply #28 on: February 03, 2021, 06:05:27 pm »
No jobless fishermen in good old Gosy? Cherbourg's not that far away... :-X :-X :-X
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Re: Brexshit - EU Shipments Temporarily Suspended
« Reply #29 on: February 03, 2021, 08:52:58 pm »
...so the UK is doing this (additional costs for shipping/tax and confusion) or a retaliatory strike from the EU members?

The problem is the terms of the deal itself. The UK decided in 2017 to leave the Single Market and Customs Union. They got their wish.

UK goods are furthermore liable to duty as they left the single VAT Area. Sadly, there is no "sorting" this out. This is the outcome, for five years at least.

Teething problems are only somewhat true. UK traders do not yet need to produce all paperwork to prove their goods meet requirements. In future, they will.

The UK left to pursue strike deals elsewhere. Okay. But that likely results in regulatory divergence with the EU, therefore more UK-EU trade friction. Or why leave?

I can't claim to have any special insight, but it seems to me that an expanded Iron Heart EU operation is the only viable, long-term path. I hope it's up to speed soon.

Hello everyone, apologies that my first post is about Brexit. I also own some Iron Heart goods, and look forward to ordering again in the near future.