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Re: Bitch Please... FAKE Iron Heart?
« Reply #300 on: January 27, 2020, 05:55:35 am »
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Re: Bitch Please... FAKE Iron Heart?
« Reply #301 on: January 27, 2020, 06:05:39 am »
@Colinrado - not seeing the shirt in person so to speak and not having a "legit shirt" to compare it with I offer my words / thoughts tentatively. You bought this shirt on eBay so I'm guessing it was "used"? If this is the case it could be an example of really bad tailoring the shirt via the side seams to make it more fitted for the previous owner.
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Re: Bitch Please... FAKE Iron Heart?
« Reply #302 on: January 27, 2020, 06:10:33 am »
@Colinrado , I'm going to agree with @den1mhead . It looks like a botched(butchered, is more like it !)tailoring job.
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Bitch Please... FAKE Iron Heart?
« Reply #303 on: January 27, 2020, 06:22:27 am »
@Colinrado The triple stitching on the shoulder suggests it is an IHSH-76. Finding one in such good nick, without fading etc. Would seem almost strange. They stopped being made about three years ago. Did the seller specify a model?

The chest pocket, labels, yoke stitching and denim, all look ok, based on the photos.

I’d concur with the gents though, it’s likely a botched aftermarket tailoring job. The big giveaway is that the IHSH-76 and the IHSH-177  (and IHSH-140 for that matter) all have selvedge sidegussets and these are gone here. Taking in the shirt while preserving the gussets is a tricky job. Looks like the tailor has just cut them out and restitched badly. I think I can see some of the original gusset stitching left on one shot. Also the side pocket is way too close to the side seam.

If this is a 76 then I strongly suspect that if you measure your one and compare with the IH table, there will be differences in the chest, waist and opening.
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Re: Bitch Please... FAKE Iron Heart?
« Reply #304 on: January 27, 2020, 07:12:56 am »
Yes, relooking at it, @neph is of course correct.....
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Re: Bitch Please... FAKE Iron Heart?
« Reply #305 on: January 27, 2020, 02:21:22 pm »
Yeowza. Did the seller not disclose the hack job that the shirt went under? Wrong thread, sewed by a tailor with parkinsons, and the gusset loss?! Hopefully you wont have any issues with the seller taking it back.


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Re: Bitch Please... FAKE Iron Heart?
« Reply #306 on: January 27, 2020, 02:38:49 pm »
The last time I sewed was in 7th grade Home Ec.  I'm pretty sure I could have done an equally good job. 

The good news is the shirt, like others have said, is real IH.  So if it fits and you don't feel ripped off with what you paid I say wear it.  If you paid at more the normal level of secondary market price and the seller didn't disclose, and/or the hack job is driving you crazy enough you now have a bad taste in your mouth, I would probably send back/report the sale.

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Re: Bitch Please... FAKE Iron Heart?
« Reply #307 on: January 28, 2020, 03:03:37 am »
Thanks for the replies. The explanation makes perfect sense. Seller was a "second hand" reseller in Montana, so it is doubtful he even noticed it. Prob didn't even know how legendary of a garment he was selling. I'm returning it so be on the lookout for this shirt for sale on Ebay again. Can't believe someone ruined this beautiful garment, took prob the best stitching/tailoring in the world and turned it into that?!?!? Stitching heavy weight denim ain't for amateurs...

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Re: Bitch Please... FAKE Iron Heart?
« Reply #308 on: January 29, 2020, 03:32:25 am »
Just to play devil's advocate here, but if you like the shirt otherwise and the fit isn't bad, you could probably take it to a competent tailor and get the side seams redone so that they look professional.  Might be worthwhile for a short that's a bit more difficult to find.

And on the plus side, you'd be hard pressed to make it worse...

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Re: Bitch Please... FAKE Iron Heart?
« Reply #309 on: July 21, 2020, 08:24:37 pm »
Another questionable pair of overalls on eBay:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/IRON-HEART-17OZ-DUCK-DOUBLE-KNEE-OVERALLS-PANTS/283953431126?hash=item421cf18256:g:BXUAAOSwJAxdyDyh
And not to definitively call out this seller, but they do have a whole lot of stuff up from various manufacturers, a lot of it “new” without tags, and it all different sizes, and at too good to be true prices... I know people are doing closet clean outs with the ‘rona, but I’d expect items to all be in single size (like small), or adjacent sizes (small/medium), not running the full gamut.
Of course, it is possible that they bought different sizes of the same thing but never wore either and are just now trying to sell them. They do have a pretty high rating.

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Re: Bitch Please... FAKE Iron Heart?
« Reply #310 on: July 21, 2020, 11:16:38 pm »
Hard to tell if it is brand new.  It could be a display item.  The seller could also be doing a consignment or he is buying a bunch of slightly used goods and flipping them for profits.   

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Re: Bitch Please... FAKE Iron Heart?
« Reply #311 on: July 22, 2020, 07:53:06 pm »
I was actually getting nauseous as my eyes were following that stitching down the shirt in the photos.

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Re: Bitch Please... FAKE Iron Heart?
« Reply #312 on: July 23, 2020, 04:47:06 am »
I’m not disputing that it’s new or not, but it has the same patch as the Chinese made fake IH overalls discussed in previous pages. The font is wrong if you compare it to the one shown on the product page.
It certainly is possible that the seller is consigning items for others, or flipping. Just interesting that they have the same Toys McCoy T-shirt twice, in two different sizes, both new, and for half of what I can find at retail in Japan. How many of those shirts exist in the world?