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Re: DWCxUHR - Denim World Championship Ultra Heavy Raws...
« Reply #30 on: November 09, 2014, 12:31:18 pm »
Right now (literally) I am wearing the 20oz left hand 633s in a 36, the waist fits perfect post soak. I only sized up due to the unsanforized aspect. Would you recommend these in 36 as well?

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Re: DWCxUHR - Denim World Championship Ultra Heavy Raws...
« Reply #31 on: November 09, 2014, 02:19:42 pm »
Possibly.  We simply do not know what the sizing will be like in any meaningfully accurate way until they get here.  Pre-ordering commits you to a purchase not to purchasing a specific size....
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Re: DWCxUHR - Denim World Championship Ultra Heavy Raws...
« Reply #32 on: November 09, 2014, 03:17:37 pm »
Hello,

I have tried raw BB´s in 38 and pulled them up to my belly button :-( . They where even more tight then the 36, pre-washed, wich come out great know. Any suggestions? I tried the 666`s in 36 - much too tight in the upper leg.

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Re: DWCxUHR - Denim World Championship Ultra Heavy Raws...
« Reply #33 on: November 09, 2014, 03:18:41 pm »
I do not know.  Read the post above....
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Re: DWCxUHR - Denim World Championship Ultra Heavy Raws...
« Reply #34 on: November 09, 2014, 03:54:10 pm »
So you don´t know how much to sew of one size??

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Re: DWCxUHR - Denim World Championship Ultra Heavy Raws...
« Reply #35 on: November 09, 2014, 04:19:14 pm »
The simple answer is no.  If we did, we would.

Every time we make a new cut out of a new denim we have to sample it, only then do we know with any degree of accuracy how the cut/denim will behave. 

After that we have to tweak the cut to further refine it.

The added complication of course is that the humidity in the mill that makes the denim and the factory that does the sewing changes how the denim behaves.

So, once we have the jeans here, we will measure them accurately, do a shrink test on one or two sizes to determine anticipated shrinkage and publish the dats.

The further further complication is that in broad strokes, Americans get more shrinkage out of a particular denim than Europeans who in turn get more shrinkage than Japanese.

EDIT.  I have re read your post with a German (Sascha from V&S).  I think I understand more what you are asking. 


Although these are limited to 125. I will make extra (same cut but different patch), so I have room for manoeuvre (swapping around sizes) when they are delivered. We'll swap the patches if we need to.  This is what we did for the IHxBxHCx25oz 


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Re: DWCxUHR - Denim World Championship Ultra Heavy Raws...
« Reply #36 on: November 09, 2014, 04:22:22 pm »
Well now that's interesting.  Any ideas why there are different degrees of shrinkage based on geography?

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Re: DWCxUHR - Denim World Championship Ultra Heavy Raws...
« Reply #37 on: November 09, 2014, 04:30:18 pm »
I think that it is a function of the aggressiveness or otherwise of the washing machines.  Tom always sends me stuff to do shrink tests on because she knows I will get more than her...
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Re: DWCxUHR - Denim World Championship Ultra Heavy Raws...
« Reply #38 on: November 09, 2014, 04:37:52 pm »
Yeah I was guessing it'd be that. Still: most machines are produced in the same part of the world, no?.. Maybe they have three lines...

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Re: DWCxUHR - Denim World Championship Ultra Heavy Raws...
« Reply #39 on: November 09, 2014, 10:20:47 pm »
Couldn't it just be as simple as water temperature in the machines? Drying habits and temp too maybe.
Think it, be it.

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Re: DWCxUHR - Denim World Championship Ultra Heavy Raws...
« Reply #40 on: November 10, 2014, 07:15:49 am »
It may be, but Americans tend to trash the white buttons we put on some of our workshirts, no other nation manages to do that....
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Re: DWCxUHR - Denim World Championship Ultra Heavy Raws...
« Reply #41 on: November 10, 2014, 05:37:38 pm »
I have to admit I'm jealous of the temp and spin settings on the nonUS machines I've seen.

The spin on mine is high, higher and peel the fucker off with a spatula.
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Re: DWCxUHR - Denim World Championship Ultra Heavy Raws...
« Reply #42 on: November 10, 2014, 06:55:25 pm »
Mine actually has a jean setting on it. Can't say I have ever used it but nice to know it's there.

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Re: DWCxUHR - Denim World Championship Ultra Heavy Raws...
« Reply #43 on: November 12, 2014, 07:38:03 pm »
how is the rise on bb's compared to 634's?

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Re: DWCxUHR - Denim World Championship Ultra Heavy Raws...
« Reply #44 on: November 12, 2014, 07:46:45 pm »

I have to admit I'm jealous of the temp and spin settings on the nonUS machines I've seen.

The spin on mine is high, higher and peel the fucker off with a spatula.

Lol

Same. Surprisingly, even after peeling it off, I've never had weird lines or anything. I honestly laugh when people say take it out before the spin cycle. That's 90% of what my machine does...