DougNg & Seul, your IH 802 and SExIH07BK look great on each of you ! They fit very well ! I still smart with pain that I missed out on the SExIH07 overdyed BK myself but I needed another pair of IH jeans like I needed a fuckin' hole in the head. Plus, since the SExIH07 overdyed BK is not skinny/slim, there are other IH jean models (at Self Edge, San Francisco) which are more flattering on me. DougNg and Seul, you look very fit and toned -- whatever you're doing to stay that way, keep doing it !