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Re: IH-634S-B
« Reply #645 on: July 17, 2011, 07:54:14 pm »
this is sth. G. have to answer i think...

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« Reply #646 on: July 17, 2011, 07:55:06 pm »
Exact same jean pre-obadai I believe

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Re: IH-634S-B
« Reply #647 on: July 17, 2011, 08:06:08 pm »
634s-b are a pair of 634s overdyed.  simple
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Re: IH-634S-B
« Reply #648 on: July 17, 2011, 08:46:05 pm »
Thanks for clarifying. Thought so, too, but still it is sometimes hard to believe, as they fade much more grey than blue. Like I would expect from the SBG. But, on the other hand, that makes sense, as the indigo might be dyed black and the inner white fibre comes through.
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Re: IH-634S-B
« Reply #649 on: July 17, 2011, 09:32:27 pm »
Garment dying ( which is the 634s to 634s-b process) dyes the yarn to the core...
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« Reply #650 on: July 22, 2011, 03:02:27 pm »
Received my 634S-B last week. I am obsessed with the buttons.
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Re: IH-634S-B
« Reply #651 on: July 22, 2011, 03:04:42 pm »
why with the buttons?
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« Reply #652 on: July 22, 2011, 04:31:17 pm »
I love the tarnish on them. These also feel much less stiff then when I got my 634S.
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Re: IH-634S-B
« Reply #653 on: July 23, 2011, 02:58:20 am »
Has anybody seen a pair of these with extensive fading other than Max Powers' pair? 

The black dye seems to "stick" to the sanforized denim better than the raw so as they fade, they don't expose as much blue but rather grey/white from the core warp/weft.  I could be very wrong but has anyone else noticed any difference between any of the overdyed sanforized vs. raw denim?

There is also the chance that I am completely over analyzing this...

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Re: IH-634S-B
« Reply #654 on: July 23, 2011, 03:45:34 am »
i don't want to start anything, but calling any overdyed garment "raw" is just off.

please humor me & follow my reasoning.

when the denim is given the dye bath its being soaked & heated & that "raw" is no more.  that's why all the shrinkage is out & you just purchase, hem to appropriate length, & wear.  now i think you might be noticing differences in different denims & the way they react to the overdye process . . . but i'm not touching that since i really haven't worn overdyed enough to comment on its properties.

of course that could just be an oversimplification of the entire ordeal. . .

*raw OD you can look at the OD666s or the ODSEXIH collabs 
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« Reply #655 on: July 23, 2011, 04:01:47 am »
you are correct sir.  I should have said "unsanforized" rather than raw.  AND, i should have clarified; although the denim has been overdyed, its not being sanforized will still leave the denim a little rougher than the sanforized 21oz standard IH denim.

My question is really about how the dye takes to and wears off of the rougher, unsanforized denim vs. the sanforized denim of the 634s-B.  The reason I bring this up is because I have been looking at the jeans you mentioned (Beatle's 07BK's and Finns 666OD in particular) and there seems to be a lot more blue coming through rather than on Max Powers amazing 634s-B or even my own pair. 

It could be the fact that Finn and Beats are great photographers and capture something in their pictures that nobody else has or the denim takes and "releases" the dye differently due to the process of making the denim.  I hope with Mondays help, my question has become clearer...

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Re: IH-634S-B
« Reply #656 on: July 23, 2011, 04:11:39 am »
have a feeling this is going to be a complicated answer  :)
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Re: IH-634S-B
« Reply #657 on: July 23, 2011, 04:13:18 am »
I just hope it doesn't turn into another 301 selvage line showing/not showing convos

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Re: IH-634S-B
« Reply #658 on: July 23, 2011, 04:19:40 am »
i think we are safe from that, hahahahahahahaha, actually let's see who else chimes in  :-X
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Re: IH-634S-B
« Reply #659 on: July 23, 2011, 07:18:10 am »
Me here.

My assumption is that the 18 and 19oz denims are much slubbier than the 21oz, hence the different fading characteristics.
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